The truth about D12

Tillbaka till forumet


SkyhigH 2004-05-23 12:15	The truth about D12 Först och främst dickridar jag ingen här, jag har inte skrivit detta. Saxat detta från ett D12 forum och det är ganska lustigt att alla D12 fans där har bara svarat med t.ex "Get off Eshams dick" de har alltså inget bättre i försvar mot detta. Och igen jag ligger helt neutralt. Esham vs D12 First, to understand, it's pretty much a given that Esham inspired almost every local rap artist that has come out of Detroit, from ICP and the Psychopathic family, to Kid Rock, to even Eminem himself. Eminem has even admitted this in the past. In 1997, rapper Proof from Eminem's side-group D12 was performing in Detroit, opening up a show for Lil' Kim. Esham was chillin' out in the crowd, enjoying the show. For whatever reason, they called Esham up to come up on the stage. Esham went and, being the local legend that he is, the crowd went wild. Right as Esham got on the microphone, though, he got aattacked by a local rapper named Trick Trick from Detroit rap group The Goon Squad. All hell broke loose, fights broke out with the rappers, the security, the fans, and so on and so forth. Why it happened, who knows, but that was pretty much the end of that for a couple of years between Esham and Proof... For Esham and Eminem himself, it all sort of began shortly before Eminem got famous. Eminem put out a song called "Till Hell Freezes Over." In this song, not only did he make an indirect reference (not a diss, just a reference) to Esham, he also dissed ICP on this one, with the line "Fuck ICP, buy my CD." However, shortly before that lyric, he says "I think I fucked my head up listening to acid rap." For those not aware, Acid Rap is the style which Esham has always described his music as. And there's can be no mistake about it being a refrence to anyone else because Esham is the only artist--Detroit or otherwise--to claim "Acid Rap" as his creation. On Eminem's major label debut album The Slim Shady LP, on the last track entitled "Still Don't Give A Fuck," Eminem again gave mention to Esham, saying "Ever since I was born, my mama lost me. I'm a cross between Manson, Esham, and Ozzy" At first, Esham took this as a compliment. In one interview, when asked about it, he simply said "Yeah, that's pretty cool of him." And on Esham's greatest hits album Bootleg From The Lost Vault from 2000, on the back of the CD case, it quoted Eminem's lyric from that song. Esham didn't seem to mind. Something at this point changed though...who knows what, but soon Esham was tossing disses at Eminem. In an issue of Murder Dog magazine, Esham called Eminem racist and said instead of "M&M," he calls him "Skittles cause any faggot can taste his rainbow." The war was on.
SkyhigH 2004-05-23 12:15	In late 2000, Esham released the album Tongues which was littered with Eminem disses. (more info on the disses later). Apparently, it struck a nerve. On Eminem's next album, The Marshall Mathers LP, which again had a few ICP disses on it, also had a diss at Esham. On the song "Kill You", Eminem raps "I ain't acid rap but I rap on acid, got a new blowup doll and just had a strap-on added. Whoops, was that a subliminal diss?!" Esham responded with a few more disses in interviews and in one memorable appearance on ICP.com's Shaggy Show, said Eminem's haircut made him look like Hitler. Even Esham's homie Mastamind, from the group Natas got involved on his solo album Themindzi, in the Intro, saying "Wassup Marshall....watch you're motherfucking mouth." It was only a matter of time before the situation turned violent, and when it did, it turned REALLY violent. Some promoter apparently decided that it would be a good idea to have both Esham/Natas and D12 on the legendary Vans Warped Tour. So on August 3rd, 2001, the Warped Tour stopped for a show in New Jersey and it would end up being the last show for Esham and D12 on the tour. Eminem wasn't there, but the rest of D12 was. Reports vary a little, but the facts, as reported by MANY witnesses, are that Esham and partner TNT were hanging around backstage, chillin', and were MOBBED by a HUGE group of people. The people were members of D12 as well as their security. Witnesses say it was anywhere from 20 to 30 people. Esham claims it was more like 50. Proof, of D12, says it was around 35 or so. Either way, the fact remains: Esham and TNT were outnumbered, to say the least, and the beatdown occurred. Mastamind, lucky for him, wasn't around when it happened and thus, was spared a beating at the hands of 30 or so people. The target was obvious: while TNT escaped with only minor cuts and bruises, Esham almost lost his life. He suffered broken nose, a ruptured eyeball (a RUPTURED FUCKING EYEBALL, MAN!!!), a concussion and hearing damage to his left ear. Both Natas and D12 were kicked off the Warped Tour following the attack. Speaking to reporters a few days after the incident, Esham insisted that Eminem set up the attack against him. Here's some of the quotes from an interview with Billboard. "Mathers gave the word," Esham told Billboard. "He didn't even show up for the tour. That's how premeditated this was. This was a straight-up attempted murder on my life. I could have been dead. It got this bad because those guys idolize us," Esham told Billboard. "They emulate everything we do. Eminem has animosity toward us because we're his favorite rap group. We don't agree with some of the things they say, so we speak upon that. It stems from that." "We got kicked off for defending ourselves, which is totally horrendous," he added. " was 100 percent in the wrong. Even now they're sending emails and death threats to us." After the incident, there were rumors going around that Esham may never be able to rap and perform again due to the hearing damage that he suffered from the beating and that it might be permanent. Apparently, that subsided because Esham was back in the studio shortly after and launched another diss at Eminem on Natas's last album Godlike in the song "Shady MF." In mid-2002, things got violent again. When Eminem was recording a video for his hit song "Without Me", Esham and TNT got a small measure of revenge. They went out to California, where the video was being shot, and right there on Sunset Blvd., Esham, TNT, and about 15 gang members jumped Proof and Obie Trice, another rapper on Eminem's label. Two Shady Records staff members were also involved. Although it was, like, a damn near 20-4 beating, Proof claims that he and Obie Trice pretty much beat Esham and TNT up again. But others say that it was just a straight up beatdown, and that Proof and Obie got straight fucked up. Who knows who to believe, but if you wanna draw your own conclusions, keep in mind that it was 15-20 people against 4. The beef was pretty much silent for awhile later until Esham signed to Psychopathic in 2002 and released a greatest hits album called Acid Rain. The album included 5 new songs, 2 of which contained thinly veiled Eminem disses. In October of 2003, someone from D12 finally responded to all the disses. Proof, from D12, released a song online entitled "E.S.H.A.M." which stood for "Every Sucka Has A Moment." The song talked about how Esham was a big legend in Detroit back in the early 90's but claimed that he wasn't shit now, so on and so forth. Esham spit another diss on the 2003 Hallowicked track "Thug Pit." This isn't noteable really--at that point, Esham had dissed Eminem and D12 so many times that it became hard to keep track--but the thing is, apparently Bone Thugs and Tech N9ne (who were also on the song) weren't aware that Eminem was going to be dissed. Bone and Tech N9ne are both on good terms with Eminem and weren't happy about being included on a song which dissed Eminem without them knowing it was on there. In November 2003, Esham released Repentence which, much like Tongues, had a slew of disses shot towards Eminem and D12. Even ICP got in on the action for a couple of songs. Rumor has it that Eminem has a few words lined up for Esham on his next album, due out in late 2004, so I guess time will only tell on that one.
Caliber P41 Supporter 2004-05-23 12:33	Så mycket text, men ingen poäng. Förstår inte vad han skulle vara en dyckridah för, han återberättade bara händelserna ur vad som verkade vara en objektiv synvinkel.. Aja, det var ändå rätt så intressant läsning, har missat beefen helt Hitta Svenska HipHopTexter på: http://www.hiphoptexter.com
SkyhigH 2004-05-23 12:44	Thats my point.. många som har missat denna beef. Och de flesta i det forumet snacka massa skit och de hade inte äns hört Esham.
Eccan 2004-05-23 12:50	hm... fattar kanske inte. men var de inte esham som började dissa Eminem (d12) ? började inte han hota med våld oxå? lr? jag e d12 och eminem fan, men behöver inte ta sidaä ändå, vill bara se om jag fattat.. peace I found a cure for cancer, but it wasn't radio friendly
fiLLadakiLLa 2004-05-23 12:55	exakt caliber asså varför skulle nån dickrydha för att skriva det dära? o varför äre the truth about d12? haha shit hajjar inget.. det enda dem gjort är att bråka o dissat varandra? whata fuck? aja peace ye ye ye
SkyhigH 2004-05-23 12:59	Ingen aning varför man skulle dickridah för det där men enligt D12-folket så gjorde han det. Och Whoa-folket kan vara lite hmm.. u know.
Eccan 2004-05-23 13:01	SkyhigH hehe..whoa-folket ;) I found a cure for cancer, but it wasn't radio friendly
SkyhigH 2004-05-23 14:25	Har jag sagt att det är nyheter eller? Det är gammalt som gatan med det är många som inte äns visste om det här. Ville bara dela med mig.
SkyhigH 2004-05-23 16:54	Haha ja.. fast det var på ICP :D
furbyone P45 2004-05-23 17:14	Oj, vilka nyheter. Förstår inte vart du vill komma. i roll like a bat out of hell
Remo P41 2004-05-23 23:32	vart kan man ladda ner videon????? (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny to your signature to help him on his way to world domination
SkyhigH 2004-05-23 23:44	Vart jag vill komma är att D12 är inte så jävla äkta som de säger. Must have that video btw!
Rnesto P39 2004-05-23 23:53	hehe fan läste hela skiten men fattade inte poängen, gimme back my 2 minutes fucker =)
fiLLadakiLLa 2004-05-24 00:44	SkyhigH haha vah? vadå d12 äkta.. dem vet att dem är gamets största clowner.. och finns inga mera oseriösare än d12 ye ye ye
kxn P40 Battlerappare 2004-05-24 01:31	dom är väll lika äkta som vilken annan grupp som helst? Tycker den där Esham låter som en riktig fitta, Eminem ger han creds typ o han svarar med dissar för ingenting :p :c
Borttagen 2004-05-24 12:22	Ja fatta inge vidare mke av va beefen handla om men lixom de e ju en vanlig beef som vilken beef som helst? alla rappers beefar ju me varann på ett elr annat sätt so what's so special? Visst de va kul å läsa för ja hade ingen aning om beefen men även om poängen typ va att D12 inte e kungar så tkr ja inte Esham verkar va så mke bättre.. han överdriver lite elr? "Eminem planerade attacken mot mig på The Warped Tour" men visst han måste ju ha nån å skylla på, de känns bättre för honom själv.. =P Denna användare har skrivit alla inlägg där användaren har tagits bort från whoa.

Tillbaka till forumet