Bun B - Svar på tal..

och det här är vad Bun hade att säga:

Bun B Says:
April 4th, 2006 at 12:35 pm

Who the fuck are you to sit behind you safe little cubicle and criticize who we are and what we do? For more than 20 years. Southern Artists and fans have faithfully supported any and all hip hop that was offered. We accepetced everyone on their own merits, gave evryone a fair listen, and then spoke. In light of you comments and views, it occured to me that you haven’t given near as much open mindedness to our music as we have to yours. The reasons I say yours is that it doensn’t what type of music came out, we supported it, so we in no doubt supported whatever the fuck you listen to. To think that all we know is what we do, or that we may know nothing at all is preposterous. If you’re a paying member of Soundscan, you can see that ALL MUSIC SELLS IN THE SOUTH! 5 percenter? Bought it. Backpackers? Bought it. Black power, Wu-Tang, horrorcore, need I say more? Meanwhile, after 25 years of unconditionally holdin down all forms of rap/hiphop music, as soon as we even try to join a club we bought and help build the clubhouse for, they wanna deny us access. Well guess what you Elks lodge habitatin, Masters in Augusta wanna-be, finger-pointin behind the bushes, throwin a rock and runnin ass nigga, I just thought I’d tell you to take whatever preconcieved notions you have built up in your air and watertight cranium AND STICK IT IN YO PUSSY! I guarentee you the TRUE FANS AND MAKERS OF HIP HOP JUST MIGHT DIFFER WITH YOU! I know this because I am friends with Cool Herc, Grandmaster Caz, Melle Mel, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and other extremely well known originators and creators of this artform. The problem now is the act of causing division and dissention amongst the fans by people whom are not in the know. You see, YOU may not like Laffy Taffy or DFB or whoever, and you know what, that’s your GOD-given right. Hate all you want on the South, Southern rappers, or just Pimp C, since you brought him up. IT STILL WONT HELP WHOEVER YOU LIKE SELL SHIT! Talib Kweli: close friend of UGK. De La Soul: close friends of UGK. Kanye West, Common, Dead Prez, close firends of UGK. Jam Master Jay, 2 Pac, Biggie Smalls: ALL FUCKING FANS OF UGK, and I dont say this from second hand conversation. These people told me this from their own mouths, yet you would have people believe otherwise. They could learn to be openminded about the music the listened and the regions the music was popular in, so it should come at no surprise these people went further thatn the average artists. Whatever alterior motive you may have is trying to bring down the Southern rise, it won’t work. God kills hate with love. Oh yeah, by the way, as far as your comments on my brother and his reason for incarceration, he pulled a gun on a group of people thrreatening him in a mall. Only the girl went back and told the police, that’s why it seems as if it was between only him and the girl. The problem is, misinformed people give misinformation and cause misfortune to the learing. I hate to call this the blind leading the blind, because by the look of your commment posts, they know what’s up. So instead of just going to New York, screaming and ranting in White Nigga’s office, I came to see you on your turf, because I’m no coward. I’m willing to come in your yard: care to come in mine? Right a rhyme, let;s see what you have the hip-hop community musically. Oh and make sure it’s Grammy-nominated when you do it, because mine was. And while you’re at it ask Nas, Jay-Z, Papoose, Camron,, Russell Simmons, 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Chino XL, Self Scientific, Cyrpess ill, Snoop Dogg, Ludacris or anybody else in this industry you like if Pimp C is wack. I bet they bark on you louder than I want to. God forbid you’re in the wrong place and the wrong time like Pimp and have to spend 4 years of your life behind bars. You’re a black man, so fuck how educated and well read you are. You’ll ride just like Pimp, and you’ll be sorry about it, just like Pimp. The only difference: nobody’s gonna wear a fuckin t-shirt with yo face on it. Leave the South alone, becausse we’re just tryin to eat. Quit bloggin and write a book if you got more goin on besides gossip and shootin slugs. Because after blogging has come and gone, and XXL is no longer on stands or online(which I would hate to see), UGK and our musical legacy will survive. Will your triflin rants sustain?


Ganska roligt

UGK 4 Life

Folk ger bloggare för mycket uppmärksamhet.

And they all rallied around Pimp C as if he was Leonard Peltier or somebody, but come to find out he can hardly rap.

idiot. idiot. idiot.

"I just thought I’d tell you to take whatever preconcieved notions you have built up in your air and watertight cranium AND STICK IT IN YO PUSSY!"

Så jävla bra blandning på utbildad engelska med gata.

Jävligt bra svar, även om jag tycker att hans namedropping blev lite mycket.

ja det gick kanske lite till överdrift, men var nog nödvändigt ändå.

bifoga url!

tycker nog byron har några poänger i början innan han går överstyr. Men Bun b är så mycket roligare. ukg 4 life.

Byron är vansinnigt överskattad.

Bun B borde skaffa sig lite självdistans och lära sig att ta vissa bloggare med en nypa salt

rap handlar inte om självdistans för dom här grabbarna, det handlar om att få mat på bordet

lowmastermouth

vad har det att göra med om att börja grina för vad en bloggare skriver vad han tycker om söderrap? mat på bordet? bitch please

IFAIP: Om någon klagar på mitt jobb, hur oseriöst det än är menat, så kommer jag försvara mitt jobb om jag själv är nöjd med det.

När det dessutom kommer till konstnärlighet/eget uttryck, så blir det genast ännu känsligare.

Varför ska inte Bun B få försvara sin musik?

IFAIP

Uppenbarligen så vet inte bloggaren ett skit om vad han försöker beskriva, då är det väl inte mer än rimligt att någon insatt person sätter honom på plats.

IFAIP
vad e du för nån dum jävel?

det är kul med alla hardcore southernfans som var hardcore backpackers förut. särskilt när dom itne vet skillnaden på underground kings och uk garage.

floppen: Hehe, har själv reflekterat över det...langade upp en topic om det för några dagar sen också.

Dr. Octagon: Jag såg det, grym thread! Jag är väl delvis själv ett fall för hypen, lyssnar 10 ggr mer på southern idag än för 3 år sen, åandra sidan ser jag mej inte som någon southernlyssnare.

floppen: Jag har mer fått ett återfall, fast jag lyssnar inte så mycket på det nya, mest grejer från sent 90-tal och grejer från runt 2000...en del nya grejer är dock jävligt grymma, typ Slim Thug och Chamillionares nya.

haha ...skön läsning..

Bun B borde lära sig att dela in sin text i stycken. Höh

Orkade inte ens läsa Bun B's inlägg. Byron har rätt.
Kan knappt själv fatta hur man kan gilla dagens söder-rap.
Den har inget att erbjuda och hypen är bara galen.
Förr kom Outkast, Geto Boys och Goodie Mob med sina bästa album och då fanns det ingen hype..
Men Pau Wau och Mike Jooooooooones ska hypeas?

Galet..

den har kanske inget att erbjuda DIG...om inte annat så borde du tycka att hypen är bra eftersom det leder mer människor till dom gamla outkast, geto boys och goodie mob skivor som du håller så högt.

Demento P19
Nej, den har inget att erbjuda MIG och jag har fan svårt att se vad den kan erbjuda NÅGON.
Eller rättare sagt, svårt att förstå att folk kan pumpa Who Is Mike Jones och samtidigt ignorera t.ex. Soul Food.

Jag vill inte ens att människor som avgudar Pauuu Wauuu ska upptäcka Geto Boys. Inte värda det.


"skivor som du håller så högt. "
Du håller inte dem skivorna högre än all ny south-shit?

Hur orkar man med Bloggare undrar jag fan?

Upptäckte det där fenoment i sommras, och enligt mej verkar det som att det är en massa utstötta "backpackers" som försöker veta mycket bättre om musik än alla andra... som en stor tävling om vem som kan hitta mest svår att få tag vinyl o lägga upp på sin sida, sen säga att det är råfett, även om låten är skit... eller den typen som lyssnade på "underground" och sedan började digga dipset, down-south rappare, ska visa att dom visst kan lyssna på all musik även fast det är sånt som dom för 2 år sen hade kallat för sell-outs osv...
Och sen verkar folk följa dom största bloggarna, så har dom sagt att nåt är bra så finns det helt plötsligt 20 st till som visst har diggat det där skitlänge o propsar en artist, även om dom upptäckte att det var bra igenom storbloggaren...

haha jag vet inte om ni fattade vad jag skrev.. whatever isåntfall!

Dagböcker is for girls anyway!

Jag är så jävla trött på alla populärkulturella missfoster som tröttnade på att vara indie och tyckte det var coolt att gilla allt som hade hitkapacitet och var kommersiellt och var så långt ifrån deras anticon/rawkus-romantiserade bild av musik. Deras betende känns så jävla passé. Dö electropophouse dö.

Bun B quit yer bitchin’


“Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I’ll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger ’til it goes ‘click.’” - Jesus

So the other day I created a post in which I attempted to prove that southern rap fans, and not backpackers, are the most annoying fans in all of hip-hop. I figured a few - maybe 15 or 40 - of these assholes would show up in the comments section with their retarded, misguided, emotional outbursts (filled with ridonkulous mispellings, ALL CAPS, and what have you) thus proving my point. Never would I have guessed that over 100 of these d-bags and counting, including the biggest southern rap stan of them all, Bun B, would all respond within the space of 2 days. Ah, the Internet.

In fact, when I heard Bun B had responded to the post, I hoped he had actually read it and would respond to some of the points I made in it. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Bun B did nothing of the sort. Instead he let loose with the kind of comment that begins, “You sit in your fucking cubicle all day…” It could very well be the case that Bun B doesn’t know how to read, and that one of his hoes read it for him (while Pimp C pointed a gun at her, natch) and then typed up his response. Does that seem too unlikely a scenario? How else to account for the fact that Bun B is accusing me of all kinds of weird shit that doesn’t have shit to do with shit?

First of all, Bun B goes on a lengthy-ass rant about how people in the South have supported all kinds of music for over 20 years. Um, OK. First of all, as a matter of explanation, I’m not from New York. As mentioned in my post about why Reggaeton should be banned, I visited there briefly last year and didn’t particularly care for it. In general, I found it dirty and vastly overpopulated. I was born, raised, and currently reside in St. Louis, MO. As I’m sure you’re all aware, there are a few very popular (a lot more so than UGK) rappers from around here, but I don’t pretend to like them just because I come from the same town. What kind of gay-ass shit is that?

Nor do I feel any obligation to “support” someone just because they rap. In general, I don’t encourage anyone to buy anything they don’t really need, but then I’m gully like that. As the President would say, you speak of hip-hop as if it’s some sort of entitlement program. On the rare occasion that I do buy a CD, I buy it because I want to listen to it. I could give a fuck if the artist makes $5 or $.05 from it. Am I supposed to be impressed by the fact that people in your region spend more money on rap CDs than people in any other region? Could it be that people in Texas have lower standards of quality in music than people in other parts of the country? That would certainly explain the popularity of “turning lane rap,” or whatever it is you call it.

I will say I was rather impressed by his lengthy list of important friends in the rap industry. Indeed, I’m impressed in general by people - adults - who attempt to win arguments by name dropping. Since we’re on the topic, I suppose I should mention that I went to high school with a guy who once met Lisa Loeb. And my old roommate occasionally caddies for Bob Costas. Ever heard of that fruity major label anarchist band the Living Things? You guessed it, homo, I went to high school with at least one, if not all of them. And don’t even get me started about the guy who wrote Hello, My Name Is Scott. Or the time I met one of the guys from Hoop Dreams at the Missouri Black Expo. I could go on, but I think you’re beginning to see my point.

And you say I only hear what I want to.

But the part that really got me is when Bun B suggests I might be in the wrong place at the wrong time and end up in a situation similar to his life partner Pimp C. Um, since when is pulling a gun out on a woman in a mall a matter of being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Come on, bro. Did he mean to suggest that if they weren’t at a mall, but rather, say a showing of ATL, it would’ve been the right time to do something like that? The truth of the matter is that anyone who would flash a piece out in front of a motherfucking Orange Julius is a fucking idiot. If anything, Bun B should be worried about himself being out somewhere with that asshole.

Finally, if Bun B is such a badass (no one doubts that Pimp C is - he’ll pull a gun out on you), why is he going on the Internet typing long-ass paragraphs about people that hardly said shit about him? If you read my post carefully (slowly, if necessary), you’ll notice that at no point in it did I suggest that all or even most southern hip-hop is bad. Meanwhile, Curtis “Interscope” Jackson is on the record as saying just that. Funny, I don’t see Bun B going on the Internet (or anywhere else, for that matter) and telling him to shove anything in his pussy. Hmm, I wonder why that is… Could it be that Jimmy “Double Fantasy” Iovine doesn’t allow Bun B to say shit about 50 Cent?

People, there’s a reason why Bun B is the only rapper who can’t even manage to sell 500,000 CDs, and yet and still manages to grace the cover of magazines like The Source and XXL seemingly every other month; and it ain’t got shit to do with the fact that he thinks he’s friends with “Cool Herc” (sic). Bun B is a tool of the industry and a sorry old man who only ever had a hit when he did a song with Jay-Z, who will do a song with anyone. The Soundscan numbers don’t lie, fags. UGK wasn’t selling shit back before southern rap was popular, and they still aren’t selling shit now that it’s the hottest thing out.

Your revolution is over. The bums lost.

saxat från Bols sektion på xxl

haha, he fucked with the wrong dude..

Eccan P19
MIN BARA MIN! herregud...visste väl att du var den typen. typen som inte vill dela med sig. jag fattar inte hur du kan gilla rap från södern utan att gilla den uppmärksamhet den får idag. det går inte ihop för mig. gissningsvis så har du överhuvudtaget inte ägnat särskilt mycket tid åt att lyssna på ny musik från södern utan bara baserat din bild på musikvideos där paul wall flashar sin grill...gissningsvis alltså

Bra svar från byron, hoppas bun svarar igen. Ser fram mot en följetong.

Innebär det här att bun b är en "internet thug" föresten?

dundermannen F12

Självklart, alla rappare som använder internet är internetthugs..

alla rappare som använder skor är skomakarthugs

Här e ett svar till den där jävla fittan Byron från en stor Söderhiphop-sida!!


Get On Ya Job is a column that will take place each month. This will be all about rants and raves about what angers the Staff regarding southern hip-hop. This is just an opinion, so if you take offense to it then send a complaint to management.



In response to Byron “Bol” Crawford's blog/column on XXL’s web site titled “Southerners quit yer bitchin’”.





I read both of your responses as well as Bun B's response. If you do not feel that Bun B has a right to be upset at what you said, then I seriously question your mind-state. You dissed the man's long time friend for no apparent reason. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion; however we are also entitled to call your opinion garbage. You were not at the mall, so you really do not 100% know what happened with Pimp C that day. We all know how the judicial system down south is a hundred years behind. You saying that he should go back to jail is out of line. Wishing that a man should go back to jail after he served his years is just wrong. You probably wrote that for controversy, and I really do not believe you would tell him or anyone close to him that he should go back. Then on your second response, you shoot even more slugs at the man by calling him an asshole, for example. Pimp C did his time and now he is out, so deal with it.

You talk about people responding to you in ridiculous ways. Well I can understand your point, but you disrespected a legend in the game, and their responses came quick and out of emotion. Bun B and Pimp C are legends in the game and I do not have a need to do name dropping to prove that point. You get at Bun for typing a long response. Well, as I said above, he has a right to. You may not have said all of southern rap is bad, but what you are implying is that it is. You also do not know if Bun went to 50 Cent and spoke to him personally regarding his comments. 50 Cent also did not go on a blog to talk about southern rap.

Regarding your comments about D4L, a lot of people down south cannot stand them or snap music for that matter. I do not understand where are you getting your information that "they'll be quick to call your ass a bigot if you suggest that it's arguably history's greatest abortion in musical form" from? Is it the D4L message board? That comment was very ignorant in my opinion and based on hate. More ignorance came regarding Texas (I know you meant the south as well) having lower standards of music. We support what we like and that includes whatever you like. I guess buying music from their home state artists such as UGK, Scarface, Geto Boys, Chamillionaire, Z-Ro is lowering their standards (Texas artists I just named a few, don't hate me!). Truth is that you do not know what Texas residents purchase, but you just made that comment to diss the mainstream Texas artists that you have heard over the past year or so.

More of your ignorance shows with southern rap. The media as well as hip-hop heads refuse to acknowledge that southern rap did not just blow up. No Limit Records was a huge part of the southern hip-hop movement. Since they started it, the rest have continued. DMX, Jay-Z, Dr. Dre, Nelly, and Eminem all came through with their contributions, but southern hip-hop has been at the top since 1997. When No Limit began to lose steam, Cash Money picked up the slack, and so did the rest of the south. We sat back for most of the history of hip-hop watching New York do their thing, as well as the west coast, and we never complained, but now we have the game on a chokehold there are problems. As far as UGK not selling, just check the Soundscan buddy. As you said, Soundscan certainly does not lie.

UGK "RIDIN' DIRTY" - 1996- 748,519
UGK "DIRTY MONEY" - 2001 - 474,525
UGK "TOO HARD TO SWALLOW" - 1992 - 347,138
UGK "SUPER TIGHT" - 1994 - 341,509

I would just like to mention that they barely had any video play on TV for either album. They are true “Underground Kingz.”

To call Bun B a sorry old man should just say something about you. You have no respect for what he has done for the game. Artists nationwide come to Bun to get a 16 because they respect what he does and recognizes that he is one of the best ever to do it. So what if "Big Pimpin" was his biggest hit? If you are basing his career off hits then I already know you are with the TRL crowd.

What I cannot stand about people like you is that you base your opinion on southern rap from radio, BET, and MTV. There is so much more to southern hip-hop then "Laffy Taffy", "Lean Wit It Rock Wit It", etc. Read up on your history brother, please. Our music digs much deeper then dancing in the club. We still have claims that we are being discriminated against. Anyone that reads your blog, 50 Cent’s rambling, as well as Saigon's comments will know that we are being discriminated upon. You may read this and think that I am doing this for site traffic, but what good am I doing for my region if I let Internet chumps like you run your mouth on a nationally publicized magazine’s Web site? None at all.

papoose!

Demento P19
"MIN BARA MIN"
Syftar du på: "Jag vill inte ens att människor som avgudar Pauuu Wauuu ska upptäcka Geto Boys" ?
Det har att göra med att de som avgudar Paul Wall och tycker han är den bäste rapparen har enligt mig inte så mycket till vett. Visst man får gillar honom och bla bla, men om man tycker att han är BÄST, så ser jag inget i den människan som gör att han kan gilla Geto Boys på samma sätt som de är värda.

Jag gillar inte uppmärksamheten södern får för att det är just fel personer som får uppmärksamheten. Förstår du det?

Musikvideos?
Har sett den där Grillz eller vafan den heter med Pauu, Nelly, Gipp och Whats-his-face, annars kollar jag inte på ZTV och MTV vid de tidpunkterna videos rullar.

Jag har checkat senare grejer av: Chamillionaire, Paul Wall, Lil Wayne, Lil Flip, Bun B, St Lunatics, Slim Thug, Mike Jones, T.I., David Banner, Lil Jon och några till.
Vissa kan göra några låtar het ok, men de är fan inte värda den hypen de får.

hur kan du säga att bun b är fel person som får uppmärksamhet.. ehh isf är man pantad

jävla backpacekrs

Eccan P19
håll dig till dina gamla skivor då. du är en bakåtsträvare och har dålig koll. enkelt.

tvär fet läsning tack pojkar.

The south still standin'

Demento P19
Bakåtsträvare?
Knappast.

Dålig koll?
På vilket sätt?

Eccan P19
ditt uttalande om bun b är ett ganska bra exempel...

Demento
"Orkade inte ens läsa Bun B's inlägg. " Det?
Eller att jag sade att jag checkat lite av hans senare grejer?

För det är det enda jag har sagt.

eccan diitt jävla popsnöre.. fattar du inte att d e dom äldre som lärt upp dem som får uppmärksamhet idag, dom flesta som du avgudar har förmodligern varit "mentorer" (mentor vet ej hur fan man böjjer de) åt de flesta unga som promotas nu!